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		<title>Ms-demeanor at 04:22, 26 November 2024</title>
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 21:22, 25 November 2024&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l52&quot;&gt;Line 52:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 52:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you aren&amp;#039;t certain about a gaming computer, check Gamer&amp;#039;s Nexus. If you aren&amp;#039;t certain about a mini PC, don&amp;#039;t buy that thing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you aren&amp;#039;t certain about a gaming computer, check Gamer&amp;#039;s Nexus. If you aren&amp;#039;t certain about a mini PC, don&amp;#039;t buy that thing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I add brands to this list after someone either at work or on tumblr asks me about them. &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Beelink ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Beelink ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l64&quot;&gt;Line 64:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== NZXT ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== NZXT ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Seemingly reliable if not tremendously impressive prebuilt gaming rigs. Sure, fine, neat. I&amp;#039;ve sold a couple. Support sucks. Sometimes they&amp;#039;re assembled poorly.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Seemingly reliable if not tremendously impressive prebuilt gaming rigs. Sure, fine, neat. I&amp;#039;ve sold a couple. Support sucks. Sometimes they&amp;#039;re assembled poorly.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== OnLogic ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;These are extremely specialized industrial computers; you probably don&#039;t need one and if you need one you&#039;d know more about it than I would. &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Velztorm ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Velztorm ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;These things seem sketchy as fuck.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;These things seem sketchy as fuck.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ms-demeanor: Created page with &quot;Look, massive computer manufacturers wouldn&#039;t get to continue being massive computer manufacturers if they had high failure rates. Most computers that you can buy out in the world are going to be pretty okay, generally speaking. Failure rates across the big three manufacturers are essentially the same and have been the same for decades, and you get a tiny bit more failure with newer brands.   THAT SAID, there are various reasons why you might want to consider or not cons...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Look, massive computer manufacturers wouldn&amp;#039;t get to continue being massive computer manufacturers if they had high failure rates. Most computers that you can buy out in the world are going to be pretty okay, generally speaking. Failure rates across the big three manufacturers are essentially the same and have been the same for decades, and you get a tiny bit more failure with newer brands.   THAT SAID, there are various reasons why you might want to consider or not cons...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Look, massive computer manufacturers wouldn&amp;#039;t get to continue being massive computer manufacturers if they had high failure rates. Most computers that you can buy out in the world are going to be pretty okay, generally speaking. Failure rates across the big three manufacturers are essentially the same and have been the same for decades, and you get a tiny bit more failure with newer brands. &lt;br /&gt;
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THAT SAID, there are various reasons why you might want to consider or not consider various computer brands. &lt;br /&gt;
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= General Use Off-The-Shelf Computers That You Can Grab Preconfigured In A Day =&lt;br /&gt;
== Acer ==&lt;br /&gt;
Acer is a fine computer brand but difficult to get support for and if you need a warranty repair it will take a very long time. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Asus ==&lt;br /&gt;
Asus is a fine computer brand but difficult to get support for and if you need a warranty repair it will take a very long time. &lt;br /&gt;
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They make the Tuff line of entry-level gaming laptops, which appear to be perfectly fine for many gamers. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Apple ==&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.ms-demeanor.com/wiki/page_title/But_what_about_Apple%3F Don&amp;#039;t buy an Apple computer.]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dell ==&lt;br /&gt;
Dells are very reliable but use processor throttling to discourage the use of aftermarket parts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dell has extremely good warranty and support packages available that make them appealing to some users, though this support can be expensive. &lt;br /&gt;
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Dell owns Alienware, which makes prebuilt gaming computers that are perfectly fine for many gamers.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Framework ==&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.ms-demeanor.com/wiki/page_title/Framework_Laptops Framework] is fine.&lt;br /&gt;
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== HP ==&lt;br /&gt;
[https://bdsmovement.net/boycott-hp I do not currently support buying HP computers.] &lt;br /&gt;
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== Lenovo ==&lt;br /&gt;
Lenovo makes very reliable hardware and has excellent (and affordable!) support options. Lenovo is my preferred brand of computer. &lt;br /&gt;
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== LG ==&lt;br /&gt;
LG is a fine computer brand but difficult to get support for and if you need a warranty repair it will take a very long time. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== MSI ==&lt;br /&gt;
MSI makes entry-level gaming computers that appear to be perfectly acceptable. It is moderately difficult and takes a fair amount of time to get support for an MSI laptop. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Panasonic ==&lt;br /&gt;
Panasonic is a fine computer brand but difficult to get support for and if you need a warranty repair it will take a very long time. &lt;br /&gt;
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Panasonic ToughBooks are the ultimate ruggedized laptop; they are used by people working on telephone lines and on ship decks. They are EXTREMELY GOOD ruggedized computers; they are also very, VERY expensive.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Samsung ==&lt;br /&gt;
Samsung is a fine computer brand but difficult to get support for and if you need a warranty repair it will take a very long time. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Sony ==&lt;br /&gt;
Sony is a fine computer brand but difficult to get support for and if you need a warranty repair it will take a very long time. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Some Fucking Brand that Nobody has Ever Heard of =&lt;br /&gt;
These are your gaming computers and your no-name mini PCs and other stuff. I am very suspicious of most of these brands, mini PCs more than gaming brands. &lt;br /&gt;
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If you aren&amp;#039;t certain about a gaming computer, check Gamer&amp;#039;s Nexus. If you aren&amp;#039;t certain about a mini PC, don&amp;#039;t buy that thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beelink ==&lt;br /&gt;
I strongly suspect these are garbage because the entire computer costs less than you would expect to pay for a decent processor. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== GMKtek ==&lt;br /&gt;
I strongly suspect these are garbage because the entire computer costs less than you would expect to pay for a decent processor. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== KAMRUI ==&lt;br /&gt;
I strongly suspect these are garbage because the entire computer costs less than you would expect to pay for a decent processor. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== NZXT ==&lt;br /&gt;
Seemingly reliable if not tremendously impressive prebuilt gaming rigs. Sure, fine, neat. I&amp;#039;ve sold a couple. Support sucks. Sometimes they&amp;#039;re assembled poorly. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Velztorm ==&lt;br /&gt;
These things seem sketchy as fuck.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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